April 2025
Welcome to the April issue of Sidework. This month, we catch up with Dan Holzman, co-founder of The Meatball Shop who’s now expanding his Danny Boy’s pizzerias in LA. We also highlight some open positions we’re recruiting for and share other odds-and-ends. Thank you as always for reading.
Until soon,
Christophe Hille, August Point Advisors
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As Dan Holzman—the energetic and wry co-founder of NYC’s Meatball Shop—put it to me, “I should’ve taken the fucking money.” Twice during his ten years of meatball glory, the opportunity came up to sell some equity in what seemed like a booming restaurant brand. It wouldn’t have been “retire comfortably” money, but it would’ve been something. The first time, his hubris got in the way. The second time, someone else’s did. Now in LA and building out his third location of Danny Boy’s Pizza, he has found his peace with it: “I came to the conclusion that it was a hundred percent my fault, because if it’s not a hundred percent your fault, then you have no control over your destiny.”
Dan grew up in New York on the Upper East Side and started working in restaurants in the early 1990s at the age of thirteen as a pizza delivery boy. By fifteen he was working weekends and summers at Le Bernardin, where he ended up staying for almost five years. That was followed by culinary school, an externship at Palladin, and jobs in Las Vegas and LA. In 2001, he landed at Campton Place in San Francisco, where he was hired by one of Ripert’s best pals, Chef Laurent Manrique.
It was at Campton Place that Dan and I first met and worked together. After Manrique moved on to the Aqua group, Dan went to the Fifth Floor (Laurent Gras’s kitchen at the time) and on to a series of chef jobs around California. He opened SPQR in San Francisco with Nate Appleman, saw that restaurant through a successful start, and after one more chef gig working for a successful multi-unit owner-operator in the Bay Area, moved back to NYC in 2009 with a determination to stop being other people’s chef and start being an entrepreneur on his own terms.
The sensible decision at that point was, of course, to start not just one but two complex businesses. QB’s, launched around 2009 with some friends, was a frozen dessert product involving a marshmallow and puffed rice treat stuffed with ice cream. Or, in Dan’s words, “a fabulous disaster.” Money was raised, expensive equipment was purchased, manufacturing challenges were bravely tackled, and an underdeveloped product was overpromised to too many stores. Dan learned a valuable lesson: “If you lose money with every product piece that you manufacture, the faster you manufacture, the more money you lose.” Furthermore, that a business needs to be somebody’s full-time job and not several people’s part-time hobby (see last month’s newsletter for more on that!) The QB’s venture went flat.
Then came the Meatball Shop in 2010, developed with his old friend and fellow restaurant veteran, Michael Chernow. TMS was their effort to open a chain restaurant with good food, reasonable prices, and a fun work environment. It worked spectacularly—for a time—in what amounts to a valuable case study for restaurant entrepreneurs. The first few locations were scrappy and very successful. The next ones took more money to build than expected and an investor who’d pledged to fund their growth died suddenly. Their bank covered the gap with loans and would fund a few more new locations too. Then another investor came in for a significant equity stake and the founders started to lose control of the vision. Sales starting declining, debt service became a challenge, they were top-heavy with above-store management, in-store managers weren’t properly supported, and new locations were failing to take off. Along the way, Dan had his chances to take some financial rewards but first he wouldn’t and then he couldn’t—“I had a tiger by the tail and I let it slip away.”
But Dan Holzman is a tenacious and stubborn guy, so after some deep post-meatball reflection, the path was obvious. Danny Boy’s brings together the NYC pizza culture that Dan has loved since he was a teenager delivering pies in the UES and the “10-year PhD program in restaurant management” that he graduated from with The Meatball Shop. Plus, it seemed to Dan that LA was lacking in a proper NYC-style slice shops and that this was a culture that he could share with the city. Most importantly though, Danny Boy’s is an opportunity to manage according to a new maxim of his: the best team is the team you have. Or, in his characteristically profane phrasing, “unless you want to be the guy making the goddamn meatballs, appreciate the guy making the fucking meatballs because you want 'em there making the goddamn meatballs.”
If you’re in LA, you can find Danny Boy’s at their DTLA or Westwood locations.
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Recruiting
Our recruiting pipeline has been busy this winter and we’re still actively searching for candidates for these open positions. If you’re interested in any of them, please reach out!
Philo Ridge Farm is looking for a talented Chef de Cuisine to work alongside new Executive Chef Marc St. Jacques (Bar Bête).
Hilltown is looking for a Restaurant Manager with experience in openings. The pizzeria will open Summer 2025 (see August 2024 Sidework for more on chef/owner Rafi Bildner).
On the subject of recruiting, if you’d like to hear more about our approach and past successes, please connect with us and/or read Shameless Plug #1 in our January issue.
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Shift Notes
Two reviews of QB’s from way back in 2009, here and here.
Proving yet again that pizza is one of the universal constants, here’s a recent New Yorker piece on how Indian pizza evolved in the US.
Our pals at Talbott & Arding have a new newsletter that goes deep into the artisanal cheese world.
The Yun Hai Taiwan Stories newsletter, the latest edition of which is an outstanding, personal piece on the insane “math” of the Trump adminstration’s tariffs.
A much broader look at the impacts that tariffs will have on every segment of the food industry in the US, from Phil Lempert at Forbes.
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